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#19 | Podcast → Pipeline: The Cold Email GTM Engine for 2025

How Charles Cormier turns conversations into 10 high-ticket clients a month—with just $200/month in tools.

Welcome to GTM Vault, where 20,000+ founders and revenue leaders decode the playbooks behind B2B’s fastest-growing companies.

This week: Charles Cormier—founder of PodPire and PersanaLeads—unpacks how he’s turning cold email + podcast appearances into a predictable GTM machine that drives 50+ qualified meetings/month and 10+ high-ticket clients/month.

Forget bloated CRMs and overpriced tools. Charles’s system runs lean, automated, and fast—with GPT agents handling post-call workflows, personalized outreach, and even follow-ups.


🔦 This Week’s Spotlight

Charles Cormier (10,000+ cold email campaigns, 2,500+ founder interviews, execution-first GTM builder) on how to turn outreach into outcomes:

→ 🎙️ Podcast ≠ Branding: Why most founders treat podcasts wrong—and how to turn them into a lead gen channel.

→ 📬 Cold Email Isn’t Dead: A $200/month stack that bypasses spam filters, warms inboxes, and lands qualified replies.

→ 🤖 ClosedGPT & Beyond: AI agents that follow up with timelines, KPIs, and custom CTAs—without sounding robotic.

→ 📈 Newsletters > LinkedIn: Why email lists now outperform social for compounding post-call conversion.

→ 🔍 ICP Obsession: The art of reverse-engineering your best buyers with AI filters, triggers, and GTM targeting logic.


🎯 5 Tactical Takeaways (Steal These)

1️⃣ GTM Isn’t a Toolset—It’s a System 🔁
Most founders bolt on tactics. Charles builds loops: podcast → cold email → meeting → CloseGPT → follow-up.

2️⃣ Your Stack Doesn’t Need $1,000s 🧰
His outbound system runs on Namecheap, SendGrid, Instantly, Clay, and Persana—for under $200/month.

3️⃣ Qualify Guests Like Leads 🎯
Podcasting is sales, not media. Charles only invites his ICP, filters for headcount/revenue growth, and follows up post-interview.

4️⃣ Post-Call Systems Close Deals 🤝
After the episode ends, GPT agents send ROI-based plans with timelines, pain points, and ICP alignment—all automatically.

5️⃣ Newsletters Compound. LinkedIn Doesn’t 📬
After being banned from LinkedIn for a satirical newsletter, Charles doubled down on daily email—and saw 15–30% conversion from list nurtures alone.


📚 GTM Toolkit: This Week’s Top Reads

🔗 Reverse Funnel Strategy
→ Why starting with high-intent buyers accelerates pipeline—and how to validate your pitch in motion, not theory.

🔗 The GTM Stack You Actually Need in 2025
→ The no-fluff guide to building a lean, efficient GTM system that scales—without burning through budget.

🔗 The Rise of the B2B Clone
→ How AI-driven personas, digital twins, and content automation are reshaping B2B go-to-market execution.

📲 Stay Connected: YouTube | Instagram | Apple Podcasts | Spotify

“Growth isn’t complicated. We just make it that way.” — Charles Cormier

Until next time,
— The GTM Vault Team